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Kuseka Adama Gallente WOLFPACK DELTA	Posted - 2007.06.08 04:59:00 - [1] Please get it right. Its the new york slimes. I hate this paper it is rife with bias it never prints the whole truth and it has let its people get away with degrading the term journalist time and time again. It was this newspaper among others that made sure i NEVER got into that field i couldnt take that kind of self abuse. Journalists these days have no balls no guts and care only about what their bosses tell them to care about. I honestly dont care what this article says and i likely wont read it. From what i have read in this thread something might happen. But the fact is unless CCP comes out publicly and says its going to there is no way you can confirm jack. Leave it be and consider the damned sources.
Kuseka Adama Gallente WOLFPACK DELTA	Posted - 2007.06.08 05:18:00 - [2] Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Kuseka Adama Please get it right. Its the new york slimes. I hate this paper it is rife with bias it never prints the whole truth and it has let its people get away with degrading the term journalist time and time again. It was this newspaper among others that made sure i NEVER got into that field i couldnt take that kind of self abuse. Journalists these days have no balls no guts and care only about what their bosses tell them to care about. I honestly dont care what this article says and i likely wont read it. From what i have read in this thread something might happen. But the fact is unless CCP comes out publicly and says its going to there is no way you can confirm jack. Leave it be and consider the damned sources. Troll much? actually no. I have a particular dislike for this newspaper and its affiliates due to recent incidents and the general degredation of a once honorable profession. Of which they had a key hand. To see it lauded about with such authority as if it actually means something annoys me. The NYT is quickly becoming irrelevent. All i am saying is consider the source of this article before believing its validity.
Kuseka Adama Gallente WOLFPACK DELTA	Posted - 2007.06.08 06:15:00 - [3] On a more serious note i would suggest that if this actually happens that each alliance get ONE rep. Period end of story. Alliance leadership gets to choose who. If there is any intimidation on by any alliance to another that alliance loses its slot in this potential group for a period of no less than three months.
Kuseka Adama Gallente WOLFPACK DELTA	Posted - 2007.06.08 06:21:00 - [4] Originally by: Hitake Kakshi Originally by: Kuseka Adama On a more serious note i would suggest that if this actually happens that each alliance get ONE rep. Period end of story. Alliance leadership gets to choose who. If there is any intimidation on by any alliance to another that alliance loses its slot in this potential group for a period of no less than three months. Now are you talking one alliance rep in ADDITION to the 9 chosen, or are you suggesting that they be part of the 9 chosen?..i mean how many alliances are there? that's a pretty tall order. No flat out remove the nine chosen and give every alliance one voice. Otherwise its going to be exactly as predicted by others goonswarm and bob and all the other massive alliances will have their own slots and none of the lesser alliances/single corps will have a say at all. There is a significant problem with what is being requested here the: fact that so many are consolidated. It is likely that alliances like roadkill Red alliance BoB Goonswarm and others with over 1500 players would flat out DOMINATE any serious vote taking through either intmidiation or flat out having more people than the others. This has to be addressed before this vote can take place.
Kuseka Adama Gallente WOLFPACK DELTA	Posted - 2007.06.08 06:47:00 - [5] Originally by: Seth Enkar I completely agree with most of that (i'm kakshi by the way, my default character setting was messed up), which is why i suggested that the alliances specifically be barred from having representatives. The logistics of sending THAT many people to iceland on a regular basis MUST be considered. 9 is a good number. they should all be duly elected representatives of the player base, NOT of the alliances. I cant agree completely. The alliances have players too. The fact is we are looking at forming one ourselves. Nothing is set in stone yet but we would then be among the 'not allowed' even if we are small. The problem i have with this is making sure everyone is fairly elected. I would set it up like this: 4 reps MUST come from non aligned corps: (THEY COULD NOT BE NPC CORPS) 4 reps MUST come from alliances. Two codicils You must of been part of a non aligned corp for...call it 6 months before the vote is called. THE CORP MUST ALSO OF BEEN NON ALIGNED FOR THAT AMOUNT OF TIME! (this refers to nominations) The same would work for alliances. Everyone could vote but not everyone could be nominated. But each faction would then vote for its own candidates Bob would be excluded from nominations for VERY obvious reasons. Though they should be allowed to vote The same circumstances could well apply to goon swarm or any alliance above 2500 really. This then leaves a voting base (based on numbers) that honestly could be swayed. the 9th and final slot i would put up to a FULL voting of the eve playerbase. About the best way you could do it imo.
Kuseka Adama Gallente WOLFPACK DELTA	Posted - 2007.06.08 06:48:00 - [6] Originally by: FarScape III Edited by: FarScape III on 08/06/2007 06:45:48 Edited by: FarScape III on 08/06/2007 06:43:57 Originally by: Kuseka Adama Originally by: Hitake Kakshi Originally by: Kuseka Adama On a more serious note i would suggest that if this actually happens that each alliance get ONE rep. Period end of story. Alliance leadership gets to choose who. If there is any intimidation on by any alliance to another that alliance loses its slot in this potential group for a period of no less than three months. Now are you talking one alliance rep in ADDITION to the 9 chosen, or are you suggesting that they be part of the 9 chosen?..i mean how many alliances are there? that's a pretty tall order. No flat out remove the nine chosen and give every alliance one voice. Otherwise its going to be exactly as predicted by others goonswarm and bob and all the other massive alliances will have their own slots and none of the lesser alliances/single corps will have a say at all. There is a significant problem with what is being requested here the: fact that so many are consolidated. It is likely that alliances like roadkill Red alliance BoB Goonswarm and others with over 1500 players would flat out DOMINATE any serious vote taking through either intmidiation or flat out having more people than the others. This has to be addressed before this vote can take place. good points, reminds me of how they elect those people that are on that one thing that over sees the earth. What are they called? hold on going to google........ Nope can't find it that way going to Wikipedia.. Got it! United Nations So yeah, that is ok, maybe CCP will do something like that, I bet there will be a huge debate. I must admit you have me there and i am no friend of the U.N. But i am more concerned with rigged results than i am with the potential chaos of my original idea. This has to be as clean as an operating room and as fair as king solomon an EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TASK even in the best circumstances.

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